Clay Hepler joins Jessey for a raw, no-fluff conversation about what land investors really need to scale. From knowing when (and who) to hire, to being brutally honest about what’s actually holding you back, Clay shares what it takes to stop building yourself a business prison and start building something that works.

He also breaks down how to think about marketing ROI, what kind of return you should expect from direct mail, texting, and cold calling, and why the real key to growth is focusing on your unique ability.

What you’ll learn:

• Why most land investors try to scale too early and end up burned out

• How to hire based on calendar and constraints, not emotions

• What it means to reach escape velocity in your land business

• Clay’s honest take on the state of the land industry right now

• How to identify your “4 percent” and focus only on what moves the needle

• The truth about gross profit vs net profit and what you should be chasing

• Common marketing channel returns and what numbers to aim for

Where to reach Clay / Join the LandMan Challenge:
https://clayhepler.io