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Targeted and Honest Messaging Wins Him Deals

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Jessey Kwong

Pebble Co-Founder

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Targeted and Honest Messaging Wins Him Deals

Oct 16, 2025

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Air Force pilot turned land investor Josh Travis joins Jessey to talk about what it really takes to move from just doing deals to actually building a business that runs on its own. They dig into direct mail that feels human, why honesty in copy works, and how the Traction framework helped Josh scale his land business while still flying jets.

What you’ll learn:

  • Doing the business vs building the business (and why most people mix the two up)

  • How Josh uses story-based direct mail that gets real responses

  • The Traction system that helped him build better processes

  • How to test your copy, budget smarter, and still stay genuine

  • Turning 2 acres into a solid subdivide deal (and what he’d do differently)

  • Why slowing down and focusing on people beats chasing every deal

  • How Josh’s Air Force training shaped how he runs his business

Where to reach Josh:
https://bluebird.group/

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© 2024 Pebble REI Inc. All rights reserved.

Try Pebble FREE for 7 days

Land investing is messy. Get organized and grow your land business with one platform beyond a CRM — with property data, call handling, follow-up, and deal management, it’s everything your team needs to run a successful land business.

By subscribing you agree to with our Privacy Policy and provide consent to receive updates from our company.

© 2024 Pebble REI Inc. All rights reserved.

Try Pebble
FREE
for 7 days

Land investing is messy. Get organized and grow your land business with one platform beyond a CRM — with property data, call handling, follow-up, and deal management, it’s everything your team needs to run a successful land business.

By subscribing you agree to with our Privacy Policy and provide consent to receive updates from our company.

© 2024 Pebble REI Inc. All rights reserved.