Jessey sits down with Sumner Healey, land investor, founder of LIA and co-founder of Land Insights, for a candid conversation about what it actually takes to scale a land business in today's market.

Sumner pulled back from his land business for two years, kept it on maintenance mode, and still did $500,000 in profit annually. Then in 2025 he went all in and everything exploded.

In this episode Sumner breaks down the sales system behind 17 acquisitions in a single month, how he cut his days on market from 120 down to 21, and the one tactic that gave him a 50% lift in close rate that most land investors are completely skipping.

If you have ever lost a deal after a good conversation with a seller, this episode will tell you exactly why and what to do about it.

What you'll learn in this episode:

• Why walking sellers through a contract live on the phone can lift your close rate by 50%

• How to pre-qualify sellers using the Three Whys framework

• Why objections are actually a good sign and vague ones are the real problem

• The difference between cowboys and nerds in land and how to know which one you are

Connect with Sumner Healey:

• LIA Community: https://www.skool.com/lia/about

• Land Insights: https://www.landinsights.co

• Email: sumner@landinvestor.co

• 30 day free trial to Land Insights Pro plus $200 in credits for podcast listeners